The "Dirty Sons of Pitches" are once again looking at one of the most famous flops in Hollywood history, a passion project that lead to writer/director Francis Ford Coppola working for hire throughout the 1980s and declaring bankruptcy. If only the movie was worth the artistic risk. This misguided and messy musical, which isn't really a musical, failes to enchant the guys who come packed with lots of complaints. 

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Episode 417 includes:

-After a scathing round-up of Katy Perry's comeback single/video "Woman's World," it's time to talk about some bigger news: Joe Biden is out. Kamala Harris is in. Democrats can breathe again. It's a long discussion over the political tremors of this week and what it can mean looking ahead. 

-Nate tries to make sense of Kevin Costner's "Horizon," one-quarter of an itnended whole we may never see. 

-Ben has watched the DC animated "Flashpoint" trilogy and lived to tell the tale. 

-The Flop Era -- "One from the Heart" (1982)

-The guys analyze extensively Francis Ford Coppola's failed musical throwback to the romantic musicals of the 1950s and cannot fathom why anyone should care about this story and these lovelorn characters. Pitty Terri Garr. Also, a side conversation about the necessity of sex/nudity in movies and generational takes on this. 

The "Dirty Sons of Pitches" are again looking at some of the biggest flops and fiascos of film history, and this episode they're watching the infamous Bruce Willis comedy-caper "Hudson Hawk." It's a confused tonal mess of a movie and yet there is entertainment to be had because of the movie's wacky choices. 

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Episode 416 includes:

-R.I.P. Shelley Duvall, Richard Simmons, Dr. Ruth, and Shannon Doherty

-Neil Gaiman is getting Me Too-ed and this one hurts. 

-Nate has seen three imaginary friends 2024 movies and gives you the roundup. 

-Ben hates "Longlegs" and thinks everyone must be faking their enjoyment.

-The Flop Era -- "Hudson Hawk" (1991)

-The guys discuss 1991's passion project for Bruno, a character he's been workshopping for a decade, in song, brought to confused life by the director of "Heathers" and with an all-star cast, each acting like they are in a different movie. It's bad, it's not funny, and it's crazy, but the guys practically recommend seeing it for those same reasons. 

It's a special hybrid episode for the "Dirty Sons of Pitches" as they finish discussing their TV project "The Void," elaborating upon three seasons of plots and twists and revealtions, while kicking off their newest podcast theme, The Flop Era, re-examining notorious Hollywood flops and failures and evaluating whether they are worthy of their negative reputation or unfairly maligned or maybe ahead of their time. Their first entry is the 1995 pirate action adventure "Cutthroat Island" starring Geena Davis, directed by her then-husband Renny Harlin, and proves to be a high-seas adventure missing just about everything you'd want in an adventure. 

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Episode 415 includes:

-The guys discuss the merits and many faults of the big-budget pirate adventure that bankrupted its production company. Behold, "Cutthroat Island" is not an entertaining disaster, just a curious mishandling of what could have been exciting story elements given a 90s feminist retrospective. Yo no no. 

-Star Trek-ify -- "The Void" seasons 3-5 discussion

-Ben waxes about the final three seasons of his five-season plan for the sci-fi/horror TV project, "The Void," giving an overview of each season and the widening bigger plan for the universe of characters and aliens. 

The "Dirty Sons of Pitches" are closing out their look at failed TV pilots with a trio about conspiracies and secret agencies, looking at the truly weird, and long, pilot for Ed O'Neill's "W.E.I.R.D. World," based on the old comics series, then the very early 2000s action-thriller pilot "Area 57" based upon the Warren Ellis comic, and lastly the curiously unfunny workplace sitcom pilot, "Area 57." Stay tuned for the next episode that finishes discusinng seasons three, four, and five for Ben's sci-fi/horror TV project, "The Void."

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Episode 414 includes:

-Why hasn't anyone had a movie where Daniel-Day-Lewis pretends to act as Meryl Streep and Meryl Streep pretends to act as Daniel Day-Lewis to see who is the ultimate acting force?

-Presidential debate comiseration. What can happen next besides heavy sighing?

-Nate doesn't quite like "In a Violent Nature" but admires its experimentation. 

-Ben thinks "A Quiet Place: Day One" is good but this franchise is all juiced out. 

-TV Pilot Graveyard X (Area 57, Global Frequency, W.E.I.R.D. World)

-The last look at failed pilots, at least for now, and each one of these sci-fi shows has soemthing interesting that could have worked and plenty that doesn't. "Area 57" needs more comic specificity, "Global Frequency" needed more intrigue and better characters, and "W.E.I.R.D. World" needed more honing and restraint. 

The "Dirty Sons of Pitches" are making up for lost time, as this recorded episode was meant to be uploaded weeks ago and was initially forgotten. No longer! The guys continue looking at failed TV pilots, this time three very 1990s animated series generally intended for kids.

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Episode 413 includes:

-More "Star Trek" TV with Paul Giamatti? No more "Power Rangers" reboot? Robert Downey Jr. retuning to MCU?

-Nate sings the praises of "Hit Man."

-Ben cannot make sense of "The Watchers."

-TV Pilot Graveyard (Pryde of the X-Men, Legend of Hawaiian Slammers, Defenders of Dynatron City)

-Finally, the guys get their hands on some good TV pilots that never made it further. Well, two good ones. "Pryde of the X-Men" is an interesting 1989 artifact that laid the groundwork for the popular 90s animated series. "Hawaiian SlammerS" is a ridiculously 90s cartoon about super heroes tied with, wait for it, pogs. Remember pogs? Finally, "Dynatron City" is simply awesomely 90s and radical, dude.